Vocation & Making

Andrew and Joel trade summer reading, seven books that shaped how they build. Range and kind vs wicked worlds, The Lean Startup on testing a hypothesis instead of debating it, Culture Making on why creating beats critiquing, and the evolutionary neuroscience the frontier labs are mining for the next breakthrough.

Andrew and Joel sit down with Scott Hurst, a self-described 'average' Toronto pastor, to hear how the AI conversation actually sounds between pastors. Less 'should AI write your sermon' (nobody is) and more rental agreements, meeting minutes, the capacity for mystery, and the pain points a shepherd should never automate away.

Wyatt Graham returns to read Pope Leo XIV's encyclical Magnifica Humanitas — not the Pope “coming out against AI” but Catholic social teaching applied to the new thing. Technology is never neutral under the condition of the conditioners, the few oppress the many through its instruments, and prudential reasoning is the one thing AI cannot do.

Automation, vocation, and whether God cares if a machine takes your work.

A constructive case for using AI well in Christian life and work.

John Knox on the state of the faith-and-technology conversation right now.

Autonomous agents are here; the hosts on agency, responsibility, and concern.

Gregg Hinzelman on working and building for God's glory rather than the metrics.

Why faithful Christians land differently on tech, and how to hold disagreement well.

Advent waiting against the technological impulse to seize, optimize, and never wait.

The Neo humanoid robot arrives; the hosts on labor, the body, and living with machines.

Daniel Manary on actually learning and building AI as a Christian engineer.

Karen Swallow Prior on vocation, reading, and answering a calling larger than a career.

Kelly Kapic returns on limits, finitude, and the freedom of being a creature who cannot do it all.

Cory Hixson on finding your place and calling in the Christian technology world.

The hosts poke at tech cliches and the lazy takes that pass for wisdom about technology.

When trust in the machine slips into worship, and how a Psalm-shaped discernment names it.

Responding to Wes Huff's history of technology and Christianity, and what a tech-savvy faith looks like.

Ian Harber on stewarding testimony and story online without turning the self into a brand.

Glenn Butner on markets, formation, and how our economic life quietly shapes the soul.

Builders talk shop on working in tech across a shifting political and economic border.

Jeffrey Bilbro on reading, attention, and recovering a convivial common life in a distracted age.

Cam Pak on building Faith Tools, a directory of Christian apps, without turning faith into self-service.

A biographical conversation with co-host Austin Gravley on power, formation, and finding a voice inside digital Babylon.

Bruce Taylor on prevention over cure, the cultural mandate, and a business model that aligns profit with creation care.

Apple's Crush ad becomes a parable for compression, and the hosts ask what we lose when every tool is flattened into a screen.

Kevin Tuer makes the case for designing ethics into AI from the start, and for innovation as a form of stewardship.

Joseph Minich explains how managed, mediated modern life quietly erodes the felt presence of God, and how hospitality restores it.

Jake Meador on industrial and digital revolutions, the choices they foreclose, and recovering embodied life together.

Matthew Chan shares how the Bible Project's reading tools grew from relational vision and real data on where readers drop off.

A self-reflective episode on the show's own purpose, and whether faithful witness is better served by words or by building.

Luke Miller shows how networked note-taking tools like Roam can serve pastors, developers, and learners weaving insight together.

PulpitAI's CEO makes the case for extending sermons into devotionals with AI, and faces the question of what only a local pastor can do.

From processed food to 3D-printed meals, the Hungry Theologian joins to ask what technology has done to how we eat, and to our care for creation.

Derek Schuurman on engineering as a Christian calling: design norms, a holistic worldview, and what redemptive technology asks of the people who build it.

Humanoid robots are quietly arriving. The hosts on labor, the body, and what it means to love God with our strength when machines have hands.

Should our default be to adopt or to resist? Joel and Andrew disagree, working out what posture Christians should bring to every new tool.

Jess Joustra traces the WWJD bracelet back to its theological roots, and asks what it actually means to imitate Christ in the age of technology.

A walk through the gadgets of CES 2023, and a turn toward generosity: what should Christians make of an industry always selling the next new thing?

FaithTech founder James Kelly on the difference between exploitative, responsible, and redemptive technology, and why lament belongs in the conversation.

Two Christians in the tech industry on faithful presence, the weight of the work, and what it means to labor from rest rather than for it.

Why does a voice in your ears feel like a friend? The hosts on podcasting, parasocial closeness, and the difference between consuming and creating.

Why do faithful Christians disagree about technology? Wyatt Graham brings Romans 14 and theological triage to a framework that fits almost every tech debate.

Money is a technology too. From fiat to Bitcoin, the hosts trace the moral grain of currency and ask what generosity looks like in a crypto age.

Are our limits a problem to fix or a gift to receive? Scott MacLellan joins to untangle finitude from sin, and productivity from rest.

What does Silicon Valley believe about the meaning of life? The series opens by reading Mark Zuckerberg's vision of work against a theology of vocation, idolatry, and rest.